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obama wants even more spending increases. and a lot of republicans, conservatives, are saying you know what? we don't want a tax hike at all. we give boehner credit but we don't want a tax hike. this is not the time. it's a very anemic economy. let's just let the democrats have their tax hike and we'll be done with it. other than that, jimmy, i don't think this thing gets done. that's what i'm coming around to. >> well, i think that there's a chance to that. a chance for that to happen in the scenario that you just described. but i don't think that is what happens. frankly, i think with the vice president saying today that the issue of whether the top rate is 39.6 or 37 it's really doesn't matter. that was a huge olive branch as our colleague just said. this is a signal, a smoke signal like a vatican smoke signal sent from the administration to speaker boehner today. >> but that's been out there before. >> i understand that. >> there's only a handful of republicans, what are you going to get, a percentage point? mark seimone,
obama wants even more spending increases. and a lot of republicans, conservatives, are saying you know what? we don't want a tax hike at all. we give boehner credit but we don't want a tax hike. this is not the time. it's a very anemic economy. let's just let the democrats have their tax hike and we'll be done with it. other than that, jimmy, i don't think this thing gets done. that's what i'm coming around to. >> well, i think that there's a chance to that. a chance for that to happen in...
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we want to have obama care. we want to have universal coverage. tell me how we can do this in context of not making your businesses a nightmare. i wish that was the approach of the president. i remember when i went down two towns with bernanke. one was in south carolina and the other was dilapidated. i asked the mayors, they said we went to business and said, what do you need to make this right? and i wish the obama administration would -- >> indiana and illinois. >> the key thing for business competitivene competitiveness with regard to health care, it's the slowest on record. now, you could -- >> it's the recession. >> it could be. >> the slow growth -- >> that wouldn't explain all of it. it does feel like -- of course we need more data points. >> it sharply outpaces inflation. >> not in the last two years. >> it's come down. >> not if you are somebody who is at a small company who is -- >> business is -- the most important there is the growth in the cost of health care. if this is helping to bend the cost curve -- >> if you talk to small busine
we want to have obama care. we want to have universal coverage. tell me how we can do this in context of not making your businesses a nightmare. i wish that was the approach of the president. i remember when i went down two towns with bernanke. one was in south carolina and the other was dilapidated. i asked the mayors, they said we went to business and said, what do you need to make this right? and i wish the obama administration would -- >> indiana and illinois. >> the key thing...
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president obama. and the president is set to speak about the cliff and the a economy later today. >> i thought i was supposed to come here today. you thought you were supposed to come here today. so we are both here. not really, folks. a lot of talk today is about what investors should do if we go over the cliff. what should we do if there is a debt deal before year-end or shortly thereafter. we have smart strategies and individual stock picks for you this hour. >> that's right. well also take a look at another side of google that you very rarely hear about. the internet giant stashing billions in tax shelters to avoid paying taxes. is that fair play or outrageous corporate behavior? especially in this climate. well talk about that. but first, markets are generally higher. dow jones industrial average up 29 points on the day. nasdaq is up 7. and s&p 500 up about 1 1/2. >> they've been that way about the last ten days or two weeks or so. 21 days until america goes over the cliff or not. president obama
president obama. and the president is set to speak about the cliff and the a economy later today. >> i thought i was supposed to come here today. you thought you were supposed to come here today. so we are both here. not really, folks. a lot of talk today is about what investors should do if we go over the cliff. what should we do if there is a debt deal before year-end or shortly thereafter. we have smart strategies and individual stock picks for you this hour. >> that's right....
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this is the third element of obama care that even democrats are peeling away from. they repealed a 1099 withholding piece of the law that was totally, totally destructive for businesses and really very onerous and they've gotten rid of the class act. the administration itself has pretty much thrown the class act in the garbage. the question is why are they all of a sudden abandoning various programs? >> let me just get at this job killing idea. when you have a law that brings 30 million people into the health care marketplace, they now have insurance, these are the folks who are going to be using the medical devices, who are going to be using hospitals, insurers. that's why those sectors are benefiting and that's why the law asks them to contribute. i think it's fair, especially since it's narrow lee tailored, it doesn't hit the over-the-counter medical device ps. >> you know what's so great, igor, guy benson is right. you are to the left of elizabeth warren and al franken. i never thought such a thing is possible. i'm proud of you, igor. this is great stuff. >> he
this is the third element of obama care that even democrats are peeling away from. they repealed a 1099 withholding piece of the law that was totally, totally destructive for businesses and really very onerous and they've gotten rid of the class act. the administration itself has pretty much thrown the class act in the garbage. the question is why are they all of a sudden abandoning various programs? >> let me just get at this job killing idea. when you have a law that brings 30 million...
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today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
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do you believe john boehner and president obama this weekend had a serious discussion? where are we really in this compromise? >> well, i've learned a long time ago up here what you don't know sometimes can kill you. if you don't know anything, it means something is going on. i hope they had substantial negotiations. >> you have no idea if it's true. >> too many people negotiating is a bad thing. >> you can't have 500 people in a room negotiating, right? you have been pretty vocal over the debt ceiling debate. very soon after this fiscal cliff issue moves forward, we're going to be moving forward on the debt ceiling debate. you have said you do not agree with president obama that he basically wants to take this debt ceiling debate off the table and this no barriers. why? >> it's like taking the limits off a teenager daughter's credit card. if you don't have limits you're going to spend forever. if the president didn't have limits, didn't have to come to us, work out an agreement, spending goes on forever, debt and deficit, pretty soon -- >> play with people's lives ever
do you believe john boehner and president obama this weekend had a serious discussion? where are we really in this compromise? >> well, i've learned a long time ago up here what you don't know sometimes can kill you. if you don't know anything, it means something is going on. i hope they had substantial negotiations. >> you have no idea if it's true. >> too many people negotiating is a bad thing. >> you can't have 500 people in a room negotiating, right? you have been...
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president obama's meeting with house speaker john boehner this hour. john, what should we expect? >> we expect the meeting to last something less than an hour between the speaker and the president of the united states. a republican leadership aide told me the meeting is taking place because a shakeup is required in budget talks, given the inflexibility of the white house. question is going to be, what is that shakeup? the speaker wants and republicans have been the demanding more details from the white house on potential cuts and entitlement programs. the white house has shown no willingness to go further than they've already gone and they are winning this argument in terms of public opinion. so, another possibility for a shakeup is for republicans to some how give ground and we'll see whether that happens on decoupling top tax rates, 98% of american families. we're going to have to see what happens and if we hear from john boehner and president obama after this meeting which will probably only do if some breakthrough occurs. >> all right, john, thank you. keep us posted. we will
president obama's meeting with house speaker john boehner this hour. john, what should we expect? >> we expect the meeting to last something less than an hour between the speaker and the president of the united states. a republican leadership aide told me the meeting is taking place because a shakeup is required in budget talks, given the inflexibility of the white house. question is going to be, what is that shakeup? the speaker wants and republicans have been the demanding more details...
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team obama and team boehner are back at the negotiating table. but there is still substantial disagreement on tax rates, tax revenues, domestic spending and entitlement reform and the clock is ticking. speaking of tax hikes, europe's grand experiment with taxing the rich more is falling apart, especially in france and britain. and here at home, california and new york are passing through the 50% tax rate barrier. is anybody looking at how tax hikes fail the test of economic growth? >>> back here in the u.s., could it be michigan which used to call itself the worker's paradise union state is now moving towards new anti-union right-to-work legislation and it looks like it's going to pass? but first up, budget talks resume between speaker john boehner and president obama today. with just 25 days to go, let's keep tabs on where we stand. reports of a conservative backlash against speaker boehner simply not true. he has the solid support of his leadership and the rank and file. but there is concern among some in the gop that they are at risk of becomi
team obama and team boehner are back at the negotiating table. but there is still substantial disagreement on tax rates, tax revenues, domestic spending and entitlement reform and the clock is ticking. speaking of tax hikes, europe's grand experiment with taxing the rich more is falling apart, especially in france and britain. and here at home, california and new york are passing through the 50% tax rate barrier. is anybody looking at how tax hikes fail the test of economic growth? >>>...
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president obama needs to say yes, we can do these things. we need to do it now for the good of the country. >> are you optimistic that can occur? >> i'm hopeful and i'm going to keep pushing for it every single day. this is about what the american people want and need. >> one last question. you are pro growth and i have seen in action what you have done. are we missing something? is there a failure of imagination and some way to raise revenue involving oil and gas, that would make it so that we wouldn't have to raise taxes and could have more money? >> we have incredible opportunity in energy. you've seen it in north dakota but we can do that throughout the country in many different ways. we have to unleash the energy of this great country and we do it with the things you and i have been talking about. it's the private sector, that is what is going to make the difference for this country. and energy is a big part of it jim. >> i know what you have done and i'm proud of what you have done. your state is emblematic of what could happen in more
president obama needs to say yes, we can do these things. we need to do it now for the good of the country. >> are you optimistic that can occur? >> i'm hopeful and i'm going to keep pushing for it every single day. this is about what the american people want and need. >> one last question. you are pro growth and i have seen in action what you have done. are we missing something? is there a failure of imagination and some way to raise revenue involving oil and gas, that would...
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while he disagrees with president obama's call to raise taxes on top earners, quote, the negotiations require a good and take. still to me it sounds like a lot of the same. but we'll leave it there. they will be leading off every hour with a special mission critical rise above report talking to lawmakers pushing them as to why there is no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and explain what's at stake. i think they may be chasing people down the halls to some extent. >> to be a fly on the wall. >> i guess it's more. we will hear becky personally. >> becky will remind us what's going on today. a pen fee of them will go october trade sales. the like day for earning, that's due before the opening sales. >> always a good read. >>> protests in egypt's tahrir square turns to violence this morning with nine reportedly injured from an unknown gunman. we'll have the latest from cairo when we come back. >>> you are watching "worldwide exchange." these are your headlines. talks on the cliff seem to be advancing as the gop is ready to negotiate. >>> berlusconi sets up the rhetoric on monti. and hsbc s
while he disagrees with president obama's call to raise taxes on top earners, quote, the negotiations require a good and take. still to me it sounds like a lot of the same. but we'll leave it there. they will be leading off every hour with a special mission critical rise above report talking to lawmakers pushing them as to why there is no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and explain what's at stake. i think they may be chasing people down the halls to some extent. >> to be a fly on the...
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the obama administration had a pretty good proposal to crack down on this stuff back in 2009. never went any place. and that's not surprising given how much money is raised from google. >> what i would say is it is their fiduciary duty to pay a low tax rate. that's what the law says. that's what they have to do. i believe that's what they are doing in this case. >> you know, they talked in the past in washington about a moratorium of some kind to allow companies to repatuate the funds they have overseas. would that satisfy what you're talking about here? >> no -- we need real systemic reform. fiduciary responsibility. google has a brand as one of the good guys. if irt starts to tarnish that brand, that's bad for shareholders long-term. and i think this tarnishes its brand. >> what if we saw a lowering -- it's not on the table obviously. but in theory land, what if we saw a lowering of the corporate tax rate? would that bring an end to this? >> i don't know if it's necessarily a lowering of the actual rate. what is called for is simplifying the structure, letting people know wh
the obama administration had a pretty good proposal to crack down on this stuff back in 2009. never went any place. and that's not surprising given how much money is raised from google. >> what i would say is it is their fiduciary duty to pay a low tax rate. that's what the law says. that's what they have to do. i believe that's what they are doing in this case. >> you know, they talked in the past in washington about a moratorium of some kind to allow companies to repatuate the...
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1-800-345-2550 >>> china making its move to take over a company that has been a thorn in president obama ae side. a 123. it is a battery company. a chinese auto parts maker put in a winning bid for the beleaguered green giant. just fill us in on why it is so politically controversy, phil. >> a 123 received a loan by the department of energy, $249 million loan, plannedy. they say, you took that money in order to start up a business. that is a acceseparate question to now the chinese company bought it. the wanxiang group does a lot in the auto industry if n china. now they have an american division. the china plant, not any defense business, we will talk about that in just a bit. again, a123 did receive a $249 million lone from the u.s. government. what becomes of a123 now? essentially johnson controls within also bidding during the bankruptcy process for the battery part of the business dropped out. when they said, there bidding is too rich. we don't think the price matches the assets. they dropped out. a123 does have about 3,000 employees in the u.s. this has to be approved by the commit
1-800-345-2550 >>> china making its move to take over a company that has been a thorn in president obama ae side. a 123. it is a battery company. a chinese auto parts maker put in a winning bid for the beleaguered green giant. just fill us in on why it is so politically controversy, phil. >> a 123 received a loan by the department of energy, $249 million loan, plannedy. they say, you took that money in order to start up a business. that is a acceseparate question to now the...
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barack obama went to a christmas party. he went past a group of reporters. he says it is a work in progress. that's about where we know. >> is it your impression, aemon, that the subject has grown darker with the prospect of a deal than it was 48 hours ago? >> we haven't seen any public evidence of the private negotiations since about tuesday when we saw offers and counter offers taking place behind the scenes. we have seen a hardening of the public rhetoric over the past couple of days here. you get the sense that people here in the capitol building are prepared to be here through christmas at this point. i talked to one member of congress who said, look, if they need me to, i will be here on christmas day. so i think people are bunkering in up here right now. at least atmospherically. that's where we're at. >> what are the hypothesis that both sides have some sort of incentive to take the country over the cliff even if only for a week or so. because on the gop side, they've said, we do 7b want it raise rates on anybody. on the president's side, he said, i
barack obama went to a christmas party. he went past a group of reporters. he says it is a work in progress. that's about where we know. >> is it your impression, aemon, that the subject has grown darker with the prospect of a deal than it was 48 hours ago? >> we haven't seen any public evidence of the private negotiations since about tuesday when we saw offers and counter offers taking place behind the scenes. we have seen a hardening of the public rhetoric over the past couple of...
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. >> next, team obama considering corporate tax cuts. could that be a dealmaker in d.c.? free up the cash. turn the economy loose. larry investigates. the kudlow report next on cnbc. bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it.
. >> next, team obama considering corporate tax cuts. could that be a dealmaker in d.c.? free up the cash. turn the economy loose. larry investigates. the kudlow report next on cnbc. bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did,...
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by a picture of him embracing first lady michelle obama. aside from the u.s. election, other major events this year included the summer olympics, the super bowl, and superstorm sandy. a tongue twister. celebrities also packed a punch for twitter user. justin bieber, of course, held the title of most re-tweeted before obama's. news of whitney houston's death in february generated more than ten million mentions. humbling. >> i think boris yeltsin at the opec got hit -- >> his tweets or pictures -- >> i'm not sure why he got caught in the zip wire. >> right. right. and him at the opening ceremonies dancing awkwardly. >> him -- him at the opening ceremony got a huge amount of response. >> as it should. we want to know what your favorite tweet, hash tag, or tui tweet, pic -- i hate myself for those terms. get in touch by e-mail, worldwide@cnbc.com. you can also tweet us, @cnbcwex. >>> ahead, north korea held a rocket launch but the international community is hardly impressed. we'll have reaction in a few minutes. >>> welcome back to "worldwide e
by a picture of him embracing first lady michelle obama. aside from the u.s. election, other major events this year included the summer olympics, the super bowl, and superstorm sandy. a tongue twister. celebrities also packed a punch for twitter user. justin bieber, of course, held the title of most re-tweeted before obama's. news of whitney houston's death in february generated more than ten million mentions. humbling. >> i think boris yeltsin at the opec got hit -- >> his tweets...
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i'm quoting president obama when he was senator obama, bad economic times is not the time to raise taxes on anyone. then why are we raising taxes -- >> the people are for it. we should extend the middle class tax cut and not the -- >> i don't want to be rude, but congressman garrett from new jersey and congressman from new jersey. >> thank you for being here. >> this mission continues. we've got much more from capitol hill. this morning, at 10:00, senator mark warner, and 11:00 a.m. former white house chief of staff, i remember when he was working in the private sector. now it's time for my co-anchor to come in. >> jim, i can't tell if you're having fun down there or not. you tweeted this morning that -- >> you call this fun? >> yeah. >> i'll tell you one thing, guys, listening to that conversation, a few minutes before the opening bell, front page of the "washington post," investors aren't waiting for a deal. they're selling stock, they're trying to sell homes. they're setting up shelters, gifts for taxes. this discussion is not academic by any stretch of the imagination. >> we have to
i'm quoting president obama when he was senator obama, bad economic times is not the time to raise taxes on anyone. then why are we raising taxes -- >> the people are for it. we should extend the middle class tax cut and not the -- >> i don't want to be rude, but congressman garrett from new jersey and congressman from new jersey. >> thank you for being here. >> this mission continues. we've got much more from capitol hill. this morning, at 10:00, senator mark warner,...
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. >> wonder what boehner and obama talked about on the phone. i think it went something like this. your mother! no, your mother. no, your mother. and then it went back and forth. your mother to infinity. >> no, i think what happened is we realize that there's been an awful lot of theatrics. >> you don't think they said your mother? >> no. >> you don't think they hurled insults at each other? >> no. >> actually, boehner was just a dial tone. you said i'm supposed to do what to myself? no, that's not boehner. >> on the economic front, i guess there are things going on. more employment data on the way. tomorrow the big jobs report and then there was the issue of the fiscal cliff. 11,000 in citigroup. i wonder if we start seeing things before next year. people are not hiring people. >> and we've talked a lot about this, ceos have already had to make their plans known to their boards. so it's had its impact. >> getner says the obama administration is only too willing to go over the qulif. cliff. do they mean marginal rates, or just rates. >> that's what's going to be worked out, the las
. >> wonder what boehner and obama talked about on the phone. i think it went something like this. your mother! no, your mother. no, your mother. and then it went back and forth. your mother to infinity. >> no, i think what happened is we realize that there's been an awful lot of theatrics. >> you don't think they said your mother? >> no. >> you don't think they hurled insults at each other? >> no. >> actually, boehner was just a dial tone. you said i'm...
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this is not really boehner negotiating with obama or the democrats. and i think that's the way it's going to continue to be. so i really distrust anything that any of these guys are saying at a podium because i think there is a much deeper-level conversation going on. and again, if this is just based on what i read and hear, i don't have any other information, but, you know, i don't get the sense that things are quite so dire or quite so close at any given time. i think it's just really the media trying to pick up on clues and hints. and that's really hard to do. >> maybe the market itself is trying to pick up on clues and hints as well. we're in negative territory across the board. it's not like we've gone off another cliff, if you will, in the stock market, but we're certainly not where many thought we would be or even should be after what the fed chairman had to say yesterday in the more accommodative policy that's continuing to come from the central bank. >> there's two conversations. number one first is the fiscal cliff. and i think the market it
this is not really boehner negotiating with obama or the democrats. and i think that's the way it's going to continue to be. so i really distrust anything that any of these guys are saying at a podium because i think there is a much deeper-level conversation going on. and again, if this is just based on what i read and hear, i don't have any other information, but, you know, i don't get the sense that things are quite so dire or quite so close at any given time. i think it's just really the...
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of obama to actually raise the taxes on top earners. >> i think a mandate do both. the fed -- a lot of people blame the fed for everything, seems a little ludicrous, what the fed is saying, listen, guys, compromise and if you don't, you got to expect stocks to go down. consumer confidence coming down, small business coming down, compromise or else here is the future. the future is lower stock market. >> right. >> so i think that there is a -- there is a very funny thing going on. we have rich people coming down to washington saying, listen, we will take our taxes but got to give a compromise. there's this curious where's tim geithner with specific doubts really get this thing going? what do they come up with? what did eamon javers come up with the other day? raise taxes a little less than you thought. he comes out and says, listen, medicare, make it this new able. we'd deal. but it's the president that is -- >> a deal if it gets done, how you get there is a question mark. does he finally need to know they are going to proceed to the increase in tax rates that he wan
of obama to actually raise the taxes on top earners. >> i think a mandate do both. the fed -- a lot of people blame the fed for everything, seems a little ludicrous, what the fed is saying, listen, guys, compromise and if you don't, you got to expect stocks to go down. consumer confidence coming down, small business coming down, compromise or else here is the future. the future is lower stock market. >> right. >> so i think that there is a -- there is a very funny thing going...
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he's caught between the elected obama and the unelected norquist crossfire. there's not a lot of room to maneuver in that space. tuesday we've got two big investor meetings. first there's dell world. dell world? i like kirby's fourth world. there's dell world. is the risk taken out of this one now? it's down so low. or does it even matter? deleveraged buyout as goldman hinted in its sell-buy research upgrade this week? second, there's a -- how many times can you tell us that monster drinks aren't any worse and may actually be better than a cup of joe from starbucks? let us count the ways that this analyst meeting slash lovefest, they will tell you that there's no better way to preserve your heart than to drink a taste of monster every morning. now, analysts will be plenty hopped up when they come out of this meeting because they'll be recommending this stock in high-speed fashion. next on wednesday we're going to get the results from joy global. here's the company that has the best read on chinese growth of all the companies i follow. in fact, joy global call
he's caught between the elected obama and the unelected norquist crossfire. there's not a lot of room to maneuver in that space. tuesday we've got two big investor meetings. first there's dell world. dell world? i like kirby's fourth world. there's dell world. is the risk taken out of this one now? it's down so low. or does it even matter? deleveraged buyout as goldman hinted in its sell-buy research upgrade this week? second, there's a -- how many times can you tell us that monster drinks...
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obama personally moved it out two years. because he didn't want to raise taxes and damage the economy. because he said the economy was weak. the economy is not strong now. so the argument to raise taxes now is not any better than it was two years ago. i think there's a real danger that we're going to end up with some damaging tax increases and nothing to show for it. >> the economy may or may not be stronger but we are also staring down a situation where we have seen a $5 trillion deficit that's built up over the last four years. there are some republicans who think, yes, we are going to have to do something, spending cuts is the biggest part of that, but they also think that you're going to have to raise revenue. again, do you think it's a bad thing if they vote with their conscience, even if it's something that goes against your pledge? >> it's not my pledge. it's the pledge that congressmen and senators take to their voters when they got elected. >> sometimes that's changed though. >> okay but raising taxes is always bad
obama personally moved it out two years. because he didn't want to raise taxes and damage the economy. because he said the economy was weak. the economy is not strong now. so the argument to raise taxes now is not any better than it was two years ago. i think there's a real danger that we're going to end up with some damaging tax increases and nothing to show for it. >> the economy may or may not be stronger but we are also staring down a situation where we have seen a $5 trillion deficit...
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but when you look at the potential solutions, does obama have a mandate? we asked that question. you see very big numbers, 68% says he has a mandate to cut taxes for people who earn less than 250k. 65% say he has a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy while cutting spending. both elements are important. and when you ask about eliminating the bush tax cuts for people who make more than 250,000, 59% say he has a mandate to do that. so the president clearly has the whip hand in the negotiations, but, of course, members of congress don't respond to national polls. they're fought elected nationally like the president. they're responding to their districtes and that's why we have a different number to solve. >> i saw a number on nightly last night that was sadly low. we try to make something out of it. who would you blame if we go over? and it was 19 to 24. that was weird, wasn't it? that's where -- >> well, i think in some respects -- >> 19 we plame i think the president and 24% would blame -- that's not very -- that's like 24%? that's all you can get for that? you can't even make a
but when you look at the potential solutions, does obama have a mandate? we asked that question. you see very big numbers, 68% says he has a mandate to cut taxes for people who earn less than 250k. 65% say he has a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy while cutting spending. both elements are important. and when you ask about eliminating the bush tax cuts for people who make more than 250,000, 59% say he has a mandate to do that. so the president clearly has the whip hand in the negotiations,...
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. >> john boehner and president obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be more cracks in the ranks. "washington post" reports some moderate an
. >> john boehner and president obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2%...
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i think obama, president obama is going to offer them a grand plan sometime early in the first quarter. if they accept it, then prices will go lower. >> because of this revolution, how far do you think it's going to go? >> as of this risk, it's probably down to $1.99 a brand. >> and wti? >> with the pipelines coming on in the first half of 2013, wti is going to reconnect the global market. brent was 9$90, $95. it will only be something like $8 below that. >> that's interesting because that wide, wide gapt is implied perhaps by -- or that people have been playing at least and we've gotten close to $30. what you're saying is finally the infrastructure is in place so that wti isn't trapped in the u.s. any longer. >> maybe it's a structure starting up in january. you're going to see the pipeline expansion, january start up and then you're going to have other pipeline expanses, not just from curbing, but from midland, texas. they are debottlenecking. but by the second half of the year, we think wti will be back, discounted somewhat relative to world prices because it's inland relative to co
i think obama, president obama is going to offer them a grand plan sometime early in the first quarter. if they accept it, then prices will go lower. >> because of this revolution, how far do you think it's going to go? >> as of this risk, it's probably down to $1.99 a brand. >> and wti? >> with the pipelines coming on in the first half of 2013, wti is going to reconnect the global market. brent was 9$90, $95. it will only be something like $8 below that. >> that's...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone on tuesday, exchanging new proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday, reducing his demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over ten years. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks to his original offer a week ago. reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. that hasn't been done before. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters of abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off. american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1. and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> prediction -- are you going to be able to raise taxes,
president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone on tuesday, exchanging new proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday, reducing his demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over ten years. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks to his original offer a week ago. reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. that hasn't been done before. in an exclusive...
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add obama care. then add 13.8 in california. and you're a small business, running as an "s" corporation, should you really pay higher than 50% of income into government? that's before any sales tax. that's before paying the cable tax to watch this show. that's before paying the water tax when you take a shower. think about that. and people want to just give more? and hope spending cuts will come at some later today? >> congressman, we hear you. we appreciate it. and thanks for appearing this morning. >> thanks for having mean >> okay. >> when we come back, the headline number on friday's jobs report shows better than expected payroll gains. but there were sceigns of weakns in the participation rate and downward provisions to earlier reports. steve liesman joins us next with more on how economists are reacting to those numbers. >>> tomorrow, "squawk box" is kicking off a special day of fiscal cliff coverage. rise above: mission critical. becky quick and jim cramer, live in washington. 33 special guests, grover norquist, congressm
add obama care. then add 13.8 in california. and you're a small business, running as an "s" corporation, should you really pay higher than 50% of income into government? that's before any sales tax. that's before paying the cable tax to watch this show. that's before paying the water tax when you take a shower. think about that. and people want to just give more? and hope spending cuts will come at some later today? >> congressman, we hear you. we appreciate it. and thanks for...
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. >> of course, last time, speaker boehner did a deal with obama. it was actually rejected by the rest of the gop, and the whole thing fell apart. how significant is it as boehner looks to make room amongst your party for a compromise that he's removed four outspoken cob serve tiffs from the high profile committees in the new congress? >> i don't know if that has much to do with the deal coming up, or threats to force people to make a deal. but he's got a difficult job, no doubt. but i think we all know, as republicans, there's going to be additional revenue, as much as any of us want to resist it. there's going to be additional revenue. the question really is, and the ball is really in the president's court, how much are we going to deal with the spending side. remember, if the president gets everything he wants, that's only about $82 billion in revenue next year. with a deficit of, what, $1.2 trillion. so it really is the spending that matters most right now. and that's what we haven't seen a good plan for. >> sessions also told the "times" this m
. >> of course, last time, speaker boehner did a deal with obama. it was actually rejected by the rest of the gop, and the whole thing fell apart. how significant is it as boehner looks to make room amongst your party for a compromise that he's removed four outspoken cob serve tiffs from the high profile committees in the new congress? >> i don't know if that has much to do with the deal coming up, or threats to force people to make a deal. but he's got a difficult job, no doubt....
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some other surveys have shown president obama with a stronger hand. we looked democrats in congress together with the president, any time you lump congress in a question it drags down the number. finally if you look at the intense partisan split on outlooks for the economy, this is something that is relevant as we try to measure the pessimism or optimism of american voters, we see now an even split among those who say the economy will get better in the next year versus those who say it will get worse but there's a tremendous partisan split there. republicans, a six in ten republicans say the economy will get worse. it's the loser's lament after the election that they become more pessimistic, democrats overwhelmingly optimistic, independents interestingly agree more with the republicans, they expect the economy to get worse and that's one of the factors weighing down on public opinion as we head toward the last three weeks of the year's negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff, carl. >> times a-wastin. with the deadline inching closer what needs to be do
some other surveys have shown president obama with a stronger hand. we looked democrats in congress together with the president, any time you lump congress in a question it drags down the number. finally if you look at the intense partisan split on outlooks for the economy, this is something that is relevant as we try to measure the pessimism or optimism of american voters, we see now an even split among those who say the economy will get better in the next year versus those who say it will get...
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president obama twice before has made declarative statements about what he's not willing to do. and frankly, all we've heard from the white house is what they're not willing to do. so the president has signed the it tension of these rates in the past. i think the underreported story in all of this drama are senate democrats that are wringing their hands and avoiding eye contact. >> mcconnell would have produce the brought it up not just as an amendment. >> we're too busy today, forget it. >> they can't pass it in their own house. >> so here is the question. the operative question is does this administration really want to take to us $22 trillion? is that really where they want to go? because that's the pathway. and if they do, aren't we better to deal with this right now? this doesn't get any better the longer we wait. when you have the speaker saying we're willing to move, our movement is to put revenue on the table -- >> are you saying a bucket of crazy is better than the long term implications? >> that's what the country is dealing with. neither are things you want to embrace
president obama twice before has made declarative statements about what he's not willing to do. and frankly, all we've heard from the white house is what they're not willing to do. so the president has signed the it tension of these rates in the past. i think the underreported story in all of this drama are senate democrats that are wringing their hands and avoiding eye contact. >> mcconnell would have produce the brought it up not just as an amendment. >> we're too busy today,...
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president obama, speaker boehner met face-to-face over the weekend to talk some fiscal cliff. our john harwood is live at the white house with more on that. john, good morning. >> good morning, carl. you know the president's been very clear since the election that republicans need to give on taxes for people at the top and not just on revenues, but also on tax rates because he says the math can't work otherwise. we've seen some signs of cracking in the republican unity. that suggests we may be getting to the next phase of negotiations. the latest sign was possible corker, the senator from tennessee, who was on our air just a few minutes ago, as you know, saying republicans should concede ground on top tax rates and then get on to other issues. >> the best place for republicans to be, to me, is to pass the rate of rate increases, be done with it, the numbers aprobably much smaller than is going to ultimately be negotiated, and then we still are focused on the right thing, which is entitlement changes. >> and that may be what john boehner and president obama are discussing yeste
president obama, speaker boehner met face-to-face over the weekend to talk some fiscal cliff. our john harwood is live at the white house with more on that. john, good morning. >> good morning, carl. you know the president's been very clear since the election that republicans need to give on taxes for people at the top and not just on revenues, but also on tax rates because he says the math can't work otherwise. we've seen some signs of cracking in the republican unity. that suggests we...
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. >> people were supposed to hate them ahead of obama care. stocks doing well. what's coming up? >> i want to do disruptive companies and i watch "squawk." this company is one that has a stove you can put in a couple sticks of wood and starts and generates electricity. you can then charge your ipad, your iphone, you no longer have to be hostage to the grid and they did it -- it caught my eye during hurricane sandy. brooklyn company. the fire department use them. everyone is using them. >> you are doing more private companies with disruptive technology. >> i think that the exciting part of america is we have the world's greatest technology. i want to point it out. many companies are private. >> santelli has -- >> you have to be kidding. rick santelli here. welcome. my goodness. 74 74.5. i had to double-check that one many times. we're coming off numbers at 82.7 for number. 82.6 for october. those are close. the best numbers since the fall of '07. this 74.5 is a really big drop that takes you to the weakest numbers since august when we had a series of weaker numbers. now, whether s
. >> people were supposed to hate them ahead of obama care. stocks doing well. what's coming up? >> i want to do disruptive companies and i watch "squawk." this company is one that has a stove you can put in a couple sticks of wood and starts and generates electricity. you can then charge your ipad, your iphone, you no longer have to be hostage to the grid and they did it -- it caught my eye during hurricane sandy. brooklyn company. the fire department use them. everyone...
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revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies. one says we're spending too much. the other saying we're not spending enough. that's hurting our economy. obviously, the last four years have been more focused on the spending. we continue to pile up more and more debt, we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. >> but you're line of thinking, the tax side, so we end up spending more thanks to democrats and the country is going to a worst place. >> the context is really important on this. in 2003 when tax rates were brought down. and then in 2010, we were still in a bad place, the president and democrats said the economy's weak, we can't raise taxing on a
revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies....
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revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective right now. we have two philosophies. one is saying we're spending too much and the other is saying we don't spend enough. obviously the last four years are spending more to stimulate. i'm not sure if that will work long-term. we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. i don't think that gets better as you get higher. >> the only thing that confuses me about it, i feel like in a situation where all you do is keep cutting taxes and have a revenue problem, right? you give a tax cut to the middle class you don't want it to take it away from them. you keep giving out things p and you never take them back. >> well, that
revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective...
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president obama made a very pointed warning publicly to the syrian leadership. secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this point if, in fact, they are already in a position where they're loading these components on to the weapons? >> well, one is this public message from the united states, from the nato secretary general and from the russians. the syrian government, including assad personally, will be held accountable. second is perhaps to see if the russians can use their influence. they're the big egest arms supplier to syria, the biggest ally that syria has, to dissuade the syrians from letting this chemical weapons loose or using them against the rebel alliance. if assad should fall and there's a chaotic pe
president obama made a very pointed warning publicly to the syrian leadership. secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this...
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president of the united states, barack obama. >>> the poem is called "other." it's written by a beautiful young woman. her name is neo. sadly, that word other is how people are forced to describe ethnicity because they don't fit if a certain box. she says she was too light skinned for the black kids she grew up around. teasing and taunts of childhood still haunt her today. soledad o'brien tells her story. >> it's a poem about her life. but neo jones is struggling to recite it it aalways called me white girl. i was never ashamed of myself until they taught me to be ashamed. >> reporter: she calls it "other" or the biracial poem. it's about being bullied by black kids. >> i remember the taunts well in to the nights. the brands of vanilla took years to fade. >> reporter: now the tough part. she has to perform it at the first spoken word poetry competition of the season. it's painful. >> i pretended. no black mother to explain how this tall white man ended up with a short chestnut skinned girl. they doubted he was ever my father. >> reporter: seven hours until show
president of the united states, barack obama. >>> the poem is called "other." it's written by a beautiful young woman. her name is neo. sadly, that word other is how people are forced to describe ethnicity because they don't fit if a certain box. she says she was too light skinned for the black kids she grew up around. teasing and taunts of childhood still haunt her today. soledad o'brien tells her story. >> it's a poem about her life. but neo jones is struggling to...
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president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see an increase in taxes next year. and by doing that alone, we raise almost a trillion dollars. >> let's bring in our chief political analyst right now, the president also had a specific warning for members of congress, the republicans on the issue of raising the debt ceiling. listen to this. >> if congress in anyway suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history u
president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases...
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one of the mistakes i think the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us. >> following the rules of the senate south carolina's governor will be named with an immediate successor to fill demint's seat, and then the state will hold a special election for the voters to choose a permanent replacement. we'll have more at the top of the hour, and also, this story. a brave young boy who lost his home and his school in hurricane sandy. well, he is now talking about coping with life. >> when something brings you down, you got to get up. >> you okay, buddy? >>> one family is doing more than a lot after the tragedy that destroyed tens of thousands of homes on the east coast. [ wh] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. [ woman ] ♪ what i want this season ♪ if you'd like to try and guess ♪ â™
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the obamas pushed the button to light up the big blue spruce. some 17,000 people were on hand last night for the 90th annual tree lighting ceremony. >>> police in springfield, massachusetts are on the lookout for a jogger who runs in the buff. they say people on their way to work wednesday morning reported a man, probably in his 50s, running without any clothes on. no shoes either. police say they're concerned about why he's doing it and that he's reportedly done it before. >>> a packed hour ahead on "early start," including breaking news out of japan. a tsunami warning in the same area where the big one hit as another earthquake strikes off the coast shaking buildings for minutes. >>> it can be one of the most exciting plays in football and one of the most dangerous. could kickoffs become a thing of the past to save players a future of pain? we'll talk about that with former linebacker chris draft. >>> and two weeks before christmas, is this portrait of christ weeping? first reporting for duty, south carolina right on cue, the twitter campaign
the obamas pushed the button to light up the big blue spruce. some 17,000 people were on hand last night for the 90th annual tree lighting ceremony. >>> police in springfield, massachusetts are on the lookout for a jogger who runs in the buff. they say people on their way to work wednesday morning reported a man, probably in his 50s, running without any clothes on. no shoes either. police say they're concerned about why he's doing it and that he's reportedly done it before....
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president barack obama, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton that the use of chemical weapons in syria was a red line for which syria and the bashar al assad regime would face severe consequences if they ever did cross that red line and utilize chemical weapons against the people of syria. >> and we have no idea what those severe consequences would be, right? >> reporter: that's right, we don't. you know, people speculate that this would mean some type of military intervention, but we also know that a lot of world powers have not wanted to intervene militarily in syria. that they've wanted what's going on in syria to happen within syria. but the fear is if chemical weapons are utilized, and again, the syrian regime has said on many occasions, they are not going to use chemical weapons against their population, that that would mean there would be some type of military intervention, although it's unclear what scope that type of military intervention would take. >> mohammed jamjoom live in beirut, thanks very muc
president barack obama, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton that the use of chemical weapons in syria was a red line for which syria and the bashar al assad regime would face severe consequences if they ever did cross that red line and utilize chemical weapons against the people of syria. >> and we have no idea what those severe consequences would be, right? >> reporter: that's right, we don't. you know, people speculate that this would mean some type of military intervention,...
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yesterday, president obama said something that was very, very important. he offered the outlines of a deal that might work with republicans. that's something we talked about on your show a couple nights ago, anderson. that is, raise the rates now and then engage in conversations next year on tax deductions and loopho loopholes. and that's called base broadening. base broadening in the past has been attached to lowering the rates. lowering the rates. that's what happened in 1986 with tax reform. so, what the president is saying, there is a way to raise rates temporarily. but through further reform you say you're interested in, we could lower them back down next year. >> david, you've been critical of the president and democrats. do you still think they're overplaying their hand here? >> i think there are people around the president who are more interested or at least have a strong interest in using this as a way to humiliate republicans as a way to push them to the brink, as opposed to negotiating. we'll have to wait to see how it plays out. i think what we
yesterday, president obama said something that was very, very important. he offered the outlines of a deal that might work with republicans. that's something we talked about on your show a couple nights ago, anderson. that is, raise the rates now and then engage in conversations next year on tax deductions and loopho loopholes. and that's called base broadening. base broadening in the past has been attached to lowering the rates. lowering the rates. that's what happened in 1986 with tax reform....
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>> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they can reach now will lead to a grand bargain, or whether it's going to amount to a mouse instead of an elephant. we will have to see what they can craft this week and see if they can get passed the fiscal cliff. the bargain is really important, too. in some ways, don, what is at stake is whether they can craft a deal is that win/win. each side can walk away with something in the short term saying this is encouraging. this is a moment, don, when a lot of things are hanging in the balance. having them sit down today is encouraging because it means they don't want to take us all th
>> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that...
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>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> and hugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery but this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return, and he named the vice president as his choice for a replacement in case something happens for him. the 58-year-old president is still scheduled to be sworn in for a new six-year-term on january 10th. >>> sad news for fans of music star jenni rivera. there doesn't appear to be any survivors. the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early this morning. so far no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the national menorah in front of t
>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum...
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. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender w
. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >>...
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president barack obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face at the white house today. no details on their conversations but refs for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan president yugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery. this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return. he named the vice president as his choice for his choice in case something happens to him. he's scheduled to be swarn in for a new six-year term on january 10th. >>> some very sad news for fans of music superstar jenny rivera. they have found the wreckage of the private jet believing to be carrying the popular mexican-american singer and six others. the plane lost contact early this morning. so far, no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the menorah has been il
president barack obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face at the white house today. no details on their conversations but refs for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan...
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56% thought obama and democrats would. only 43% thought the republicans would. will the president not act in good faith? 38% thought president wouldn't act in good faith. 51% thought republicans wouldn't act in good faith. but if there's no deal and the country goes over that fiscal cliff, taxes go up for everyone, mandatory spending cuts go into effect, a lot of folks are going to say where was the president? he was just re-elected. why couldn't he put together a package, a deal to avoid this disaster? >> i think this is a question of political leadership. and as that poll showed, there's no doubt that the president has the political advantage going into this. but at some point, and i think we're kind of getting close to it, the president has to be able to pivot and to say how do i turn this political advantage into a real policy accomplishment? and, wolf, i don't think you're going to do that with continued campaign style events like we just saw meeting with middle class families. okay. we get that. that occurred during the campaign. the white house has clearl
56% thought obama and democrats would. only 43% thought the republicans would. will the president not act in good faith? 38% thought president wouldn't act in good faith. 51% thought republicans wouldn't act in good faith. but if there's no deal and the country goes over that fiscal cliff, taxes go up for everyone, mandatory spending cuts go into effect, a lot of folks are going to say where was the president? he was just re-elected. why couldn't he put together a package, a deal to avoid this...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...